It seems to me that movements will only grow sufficiently large and committed to win truly major victories if they are both political and economic ? as well as gender and culture focussed. I think even to be strong enough to win major reforms, much less to win a whole new society, movements will have to scare elites into believing that they might grow to seek and win much more, if not placated ? and the most obvious way to induce that fear is, of course, to be overtly seeking much more. In other words, the strategic irony is that a movement with revolutionary aspirations is not only better for making a revolution, but it is also better for winning major reforms such as reconstructed international relations.