RevolutionZ: Life After Capitalism Podcast

RevolutionZ: Life After Capitalism is a Podcast hosted by Michael Albert. It addresses vision and strategy for a better future. It is all about what we want and how we get it.

The word “Revolution” indicates attention to transforming basic underlying social relations, not solely replacing bad actors or policies. The letter “Z” identifies with the sponsor, Z Communications/ZNet, and also the up and coming Generation Z.

Starting at one audio episode weekly, RevolutionZ will expand as we meet funding goals.

Above we have a tool for listening right from this page.

Below, if you are new to podcasting, or just not sure of the mechanics, we have some help for various ways to access what you may find an even better listening experience, at your convenience, especially on portable devices.

To explore the issues raised in episodes more deeply please consider options such as the following, among many many others: Some Books here / Some Debates here / Some Articles here


You can help support RevolutionZ at our Patreon Site. Please check it out.



You have three options:

  1. You can listen to a podcast episode through an audio player on a website, like above or at its web host site on Buzzsprout.
  2. You can download a podcast episode — saving it on your phone, tablet, or computer — so you can listen to it anytime, even without an internet connection.
  3. Or, best of all, and by far most popular, you can subscribe which causes the podcast to automatically download each new episode to your device every time one becomes available. You can listen when you want, on the move, and you don’t have to go find anything.

To subscribe to RevolutionZ, follow the instructions below.



Open the preloaded app called “Podcasts,” which has a purple icon. If you’re reading this on your phone, tap ApplePodcast which will take you to the app and our show. (You can also open the Apple Podcast app and click the magnifying glass icon visible in the app to search for “RevolutionZ.”)

Once you’re on the RevolutionZ page, you can tap on a particular episode title to play it, or, better, you can tap on the “subscribe” button to have new episodes sent to your phone free so you can listen even when you are offline. Episodes can be accessed in any order, but they do tend to build upon those earlier so listening in order is likely the optimal approach.

If you prefer another podcast app, you can find RevolutionZ on Stitcher or Spotify or if you settle on another player, use it to search for “RevolutionZ” or access the RSS Feed.



You can get the Google Podcast AppOnce you have it, search for RevolutionZ from within the app. Just listen, or subscribe for convenience of listening anytime. You can also find RevolutionZ on Stitcher or Spotify or if you prefer another player, use any of them to search for “RevolutionZ” or to access the RSS Feed. Episodes can be accessed in any order, but they do tend to build upon those earlier so listening in order is likely the optimal approach.




Click the “play” button on the audio player at the top of the page to start the show. You can always find the latest episode and all episodes at our web host site on Buzzsprout which also has transcripts. RevolutionZ also has a YouTube Channel Facebook Page, And Twitter Page. Episodes can be accessed in any order, but they do tend to build upon those earlier so listening in order is likely the optimal approach.

Please also note that RevolutionZ is going to need support to grow, diversify, and even persist. And you can help by visiting our Patreon Page to become a supporting Patron and get various privileges, as well.


  1. Caed Stephenson October 4, 2021 9:40 am 

    On the discussion with Padraig Connelly (I know I am lagging a little), firstly my comradely greetings to him as an antipodean colleague, if you see him. I agree with much of what he says but I have a warning. Beware of the way Left Neoliberalism aestheticises public education as a bringer of social justice into the world, making one bunch of (exhausted) workers morally responsible for the situation of the working class as whole. One technique for doing this is via a ‘Bourdieusian flip’ preaching that teachers can use reproduction theory to disrupt reproduction of cultural capital hierarchies in their classrooms (wish we could, have tried my guts out, but sure as hell won’t let any academic tell me that I must). The other is the Freirean sanctimony that somehow the choice of teaching models serve to disempower working class youth (which teachers could not ultimately do if they wanted to).

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    Matthew Allen December 4, 2020 11:48 pm 

    Just listened to Episode 94 – “Political Film Making with Amirani”. Great interview/dialectic! I do feel, however, that the criticism of adherence to Aristotle’s rules about anagnorisis, etc. in favor of what used to be called preachment are no different from advocating use of the term “socialism” and/or “Defund The Police” regardless of the effect. Like, just as activists should learn from those who came before, I feel filmmakers should learn from what was achieved by, for example, Dalton Trumbo and the writers of subversive Westerns in the ’40s. I’d argue that Green Zone with Matt Damon is a far less effective critique of the Iraq War than James Cameron’s Avatar – in that it both reached fewer people and beat its audience over the head with its message… Even Ken Loach, in his propaganda for Corbyn’s campaign, employed emotive, Hollywood techniques over straight messaging to camera.

  3. Raghav Kaushik July 31, 2019 11:27 pm 

    Michael: I’ve read several of your books on vision and believe the podcast furthers the above line of work.

    However, we live in a time right now after the series of revolutions (many failed) that constituted the Arab Spring. As a theme in your podcast, I would like to see what lessons we learnt. Take the case of the Syrian civil war. The people there were trying to overthrow a dictatorship: a revolutionary goal. They ultimately failed, but there were difficult, morally ambiguous decisions the people there had to make. In many ways, you can even say that despite their defeat, they’ve kept the revolutionary idea alive. What can we learn from it? While a lot has been written about Syria and it continues being a contentious topic, I don’t think much of it focuses on the revolutionary element of the movement. Seems like a substantial portion of the podcast should focus on it (not just Syria, but contemporary revolutions more broadly).

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      Michael Albert August 6, 2019 1:15 pm 


      People pursuing the concerns you indicate for Syria, say, would be very useful, but I am in no posiition to provide that. I am just too distant and too ignorant of even many broad strokes of the situation, much less details. Perhaps some of the general things I offer might be of use, but I am not the one to assert that.

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    Matthew Allen July 29, 2019 10:35 pm 

    I just listened to Episode 15 – while jogging; thanks so much for the greater length! And this is kind of sophistry, but I just wanted to nitpick one of your arguments:

    I think that, if one accepts Kant’s argument that art is subjective, then the kinds of films funded by a ParEcon government would tend to be popular blockbusters rather than art film (as, if it’s true that there’s no such thing as “good” art, there could only ever be funding for that of the popular variety (unless people got off on funding stuff they weren’t themselves into, which is I guess possible in terms of The Emperor’s New Clothes and fashion). That’s fine with me – as I don’t like art film, and actually find it kind of bourgeois in terms of its ruminations on the human condition (as compared to the often radical, proletarian messages in big blockbusters). Still, I think it’s interesting to note that a ParEcon government wouldn’t incentivize a Jackson Pollock – as his works were more appealing to a minority of rich people. Again, I think that’s fine – as the more eccentric artists could always make their low-budget stuff in their (increased) spare time.

    Anyway, just food for thought; loving the show!

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      Michael Albert July 30, 2019 1:52 pm 

      Okay, I will do an episode, in a bit, on art after fundmental change! But for now, perhaps think about this – for some reason folks get excited about impact on art. It is actually rather like impact on anything else…The public doesn’t decide, for example, by some kind of majority vote, what scientists will research…though overall it does decide the allotment of resources to research industries. The workers in the industries then do their work – research. Not everyone is going to understand all of it, or in some cases even much of it – but that doesn’t prevent allotting resources. So, think art – first, you don’t need a massive audience to like some kinds of pursuit, say symphonic music, or some kind of painting, say, for that pursuit to be socially valued. Second, it is the amount of art of various types that is planned at large, not the activity of each artist with the resources at their disposal. In any case, more later…

    • Z3k3@ndZ@mi November 24, 2019 2:53 pm 

      Hi Matthew – it doesn’t work quite as you describe. Rather the public decides how much art it wants, how much film, etc. But the creators produce and thus also design, write, whatever – this is for film, and shoes, for physics and bicycles, whatever. Yes the producers need to produce things people in turn want (or their production won’t be socially valuable and remunerated, ultimately) but just as shirt producers wouldn’t be making only shirts that everyone wants, so too for artists, musicians, filmmakers. All just have to make stuff people want up to the point they are produced….

      Length will vary quite a bit, I think. I suspect ones with guests will always tend to be longer. And some topics will go longer, others not so much…

      P,S, there will be an episode on art vision, so to speak, down the road, and it will clarify further. There is also some exchange in the episodes presenting NAR – in one that is, about art and film…that run into your concern….

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        Matthew Allen December 4, 2020 11:39 pm 

        Sorry for the late reply! And thanks for the explanation!

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      James December 2, 2019 9:14 pm 

      In a Parecon there will be places to exhibit visual art. Those will be run and organised according to Pareconish principles. They will put on shows…there will be places to exhibit Pollock type stuff and far weirder and stranger stuff…a diversity of stuff. Because that’s what humans like to do. Film will be same as will music. Places to perform, show, maybe even whole art industries/complexes/workplaces with councils, producing, showing and teaching. The likelihood is that in fact more diverse creative production will take place than before as our current economy homogenises creative output and creates huge barriers of entry into creative pursuits that may be on the margins of taste. Most creative people do not produce for rich people or any other particular clientele. They do in this type of economy because market imperatives demand it if you want to make a living and many artists have done so for similar reasons in the past. Usual they only wish to produce shit for their own personal reasons, desires and urges. And like you say, if what they produce is not something that will or can be part of their balanced job complex, hopeful, for whatever reason, unlike in an economy working under market imperatives and capitalist laws of motion, they will still have plenty of time to produce stuff that only a very few may be able to appreciate but will still bring them joy. I produce free improvised music in a society, under, that really doesn’t appreciate it nor actually like it. Some can make a living from it but it’s a tough life under such a horrible economy. There are incredible barriers, frustrations, in pursuing it. I do it mainly in my minimal spare time and make nothing from it. All my stuff, with others and alone, is under Creative Commons. There is really no point trying to extract an income from such a pursuit. I do it for myself. In fact no different to what Frank Zappa, who managed to build quite a successful ‘business’ around his creative pursuits, did and most others do. They create for themselves and if there is anybody out there that just happens to like it then great, but they’re making the shit regardless. A Parecon would enable diverse creation of art works and give them a chance to be viewed or heard, most of which would never get created or at least be relegated to the margins and hardly noticed, under the current abysmal economic arrangements in which we are currently embedded.

  5. Marty Hahn July 23, 2019 9:13 pm 

    T wish I could financially contribute but my finances prevent it at the present time.

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      Michael Albert July 30, 2019 1:46 pm 

      No problem, I more than understand…but you can perhaps talk it up a bit. That helps a lot!

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    Michael Albert June 16, 2019 11:52 am 

    I agree that reaching a viable audience for RevolutionZ is going to depend on people helping with the task. Users of ZNet, as a start, can invite friends or others by sending them links, if need be explaining podcasts, or even by arranging to both listen and then talk about the contents with one another, etc. of course it is also possible to help materially by becoming a patron. Once one does that, one can also communicate with the show via the site. Perhaps there are other ideas. As far as ZNet hosting podcasts, they require too much bandwidth…even mine is not in our servers, but instead on a system callled Buzzsprout.

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    Matthew Allen June 3, 2019 9:50 pm 

    So excited to listen to this! Great work, Michael!

  8. Brit June 3, 2019 5:40 pm 

    Can you post a link for the downloads on a PC? (” You can always find the latest episode and all episodes at our web host site on Buzzsprout which also has transcripts.” …where is this link to Buzzsprout which also has transcripts? the link above doesn’t work)

  9. Anil Eklavya June 3, 2019 3:59 pm 

    I definitely think there is need for such initiatives. However, my strong view is that we need to get out of our comfort zones and avoid the echo chamber effect. To do this, we need to allow as much diversity as possible. We need explore as many directions as possible, because the world is changing very fast and the old ideas and terms and techniques and narratives and so on. We need to take into account new phenomena such as Total Surveillance, combined with Internet of Things and Artificial Intelligence. We need to consider Surveillance Capitalism and all such new developments, which are not only changing the world as we know it, but also the very meaning of individual, society and life itself. Otherwise we concede these spaces to those who are going to lead us to disasters and calamities of more than one kind.

    One of the ways to achieve this is to come out of the Elite-Vanguard ways of discussing these things. We need to give importance to grassroots even at the intellectual level.

    • Michael Albert June 6, 2019 3:29 pm 

      I think the best I can do for that, with a podcast, is to welcome Email, and answer questions and react to comments, which I will be doing.

      Something to realize is that reaching an immense audience sounds good, would be wonderful, etc. but just getting started, there is no way to reach beyond who – well – I can reach. Getting out more widely actually depends on folks promoting the thing in question, in this case a podcast, to their friends, family, workmates or whatever.

      As RevolutionZ is now, it is very much for people who are already seriously interested. It tries not to assume specific background but it does assume rejection of existing society. If it grows, I will likely try another podcast, parallel, but for folks who aren’t yet so receptive. We’ll see, hopefully there will be support.

      • Anil Eklavya June 11, 2019 4:14 pm 

        I understand. It is difficult to get audience in these day for any serious discussion, so much dumbing down has taken place. Still, apart from what you are planning, perhaps others could also produce their own podcasts or (some other forum) under the ZNet umbrella. Since the same things are happening in many countries around the world and since ZNet has members from many countries, perhaps more such podcasts by a diversity of people could be there on ZNet.

        Some kind of ‘scouting for talent’ might be a way to bring in people for such initiatives. A lot of people on the Internet are producing content on regular basis related to the matters that ZNet deals with and the best ones among them could be asked whether they would be interested in doing something like this on ZNet. They might even be young and not very well known. Perhaps even graduate students, or others who are prepared spend time on this. They might talk about more specific topics or might look at problems in different ways.

        In special cases, even some very good YouTube channels could be associated with ZNet if there is a good match. For example, there are many people who produce very good review of films, or their takes on science and technology or literature or other arts. There might be profiles of historical personalities for educational purposes. The point is, if there is more diversity and more accessibility for those who have the potential, but not the background, they might consider joining. Promotion will also become easier then.

        Otherwise, suppose I have been reading ZNet articles for the last ten year, then I already know most of the issues and concerns and possible solutions and challenges etc., so I may not find many articles now which I will spend time on reading, as i am already familiar with all the arguments that recur on ZNet. I may already be using many of them myself. So, not only does new audience not come, but even the old audience is slowly lost.

        It is a collective site, so it has to be collective effort to widen its reach, unlike a personal blog.

        Of course, it is not as easy to do as it is to propose.

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