I think it is reasonable and long overdue to resolve the 8 year breakaway civil wars in Ukraine. It is extreme to use Russia wanting to do so as an excuse to arm and use all of Ukraine to expand into their civil war and make it a proxy war with Russia. It was further USA NATO eastern expansionism into Ukraine through, the fascist method government USA NATO installed in a coup against Ukraine’s democracy in 2014, that instigated the reaction of the breakaway regions and Russia helping them. Ukraine should not be armed and encouraged to fight USA NATOs proxy war with Russia in its breakaway regions and possibly expanding beyond. Russia should be countered in its unilateralism to resolve the 8year breakaway republics situation in Ukraine by multilateralism in solving the ongoing 8year bloody civil war there at last, through return to the Minsk Accords and more objective peace keepers could be UN troops.
It is not Russia who has been expanding and in danger of now been appeased, Russia has shrunk, it is the 20 times bigger budgeted NATO and USA that has been expanding through Eastern Europe right up to borders of Russia. It is the proxy war hungry cowardly USA NATO planners that must not be appeased by all of Ukraine and Russia going to extreme and an expanding form of war, when it is reasonable and good that an 8year civil war be resolved by negotiations, returning to the already in place Minsk talks framework, to peacefully resolve the bloody consequences of USA’s coup against Ukraine’s democracy in 2014 by Zelensky’s party. Calling Zelensky and his coup party, democratically elected in subsequent elections they ran, is not legitimate enough. To have an unelected forced coup government run elections, and while the country is divided and cut off in an 8year civil war, can not be called legitimate elections.
It is not a case of the danger of ‘Appeasing Russia’ Russia is not expanding, it is USA NATO expanding for last 30years against its clear good faith promises to Russia that ended the Cold War, by the progressive character of Gorbachev and Russia. Forked tongue USA has gradually gone back on all its arms treaties and promises. We must now have the wisdom not to appease USA NATO and their extreme and duplicitous use of the tragic civil war their coup instigated in Ukraine. USA NATO expansionism and their call to further abuse Ukrainians into now fighting a full war against their once fellow citizens in the breakaway republics, this is what we must not excuse or appease.
It is reasonable to resolve the civil wars in Ukraine, but of course it should be resolved multilaterally not unilaterally by Russia, but resolving it is a solution to a problem USA NATOs Ukraine coup government caused, if they had not alienated the Russian speaking regions of Ukraine they would not have felt they needed to breakaway and fight for their homes, arming Ukraine to turn all of the country into a bigger all out proxy war for USA NATO is wrong, the situation of breakaway republics can and should be resolved, as Russia also has shown it wants. Expanding the 8year civil war into a bigger war is an excuse USA NATO has obviously been waiting for, and the coup government of Ukraine may now be calling for, but they should not be appeased. Wider Ukraine proxy war by expansionist USA NATO must not be appeased. Peaceful resolution of the breakaway regions with a reasonable and agreed form of Autonomy could be negotiated by return to Minsk Accords or something like it with Russia and Ukraine and Europe not NATO participating, if the USA NATO would be asked to shut up and allow it to succeed. But they obviously want a wider Ukraine civil war and proxy war with Russia, we should not follow or appease them.
Well said Norman Soloman.
I think it is reasonable and long overdue to resolve the 8 year breakaway civil wars in Ukraine. It is extreme to use Russia wanting to do so as an excuse to arm and use all of Ukraine to expand into their civil war and make it a proxy war with Russia. It was further USA NATO eastern expansionism into Ukraine through, the fascist method government USA NATO installed in a coup against Ukraine’s democracy in 2014, that instigated the reaction of the breakaway regions and Russia helping them. Ukraine should not be armed and encouraged to fight USA NATOs proxy war with Russia in its breakaway regions and possibly expanding beyond. Russia should be countered in its unilateralism to resolve the 8year breakaway republics situation in Ukraine by multilateralism in solving the ongoing 8year bloody civil war there at last, through return to the Minsk Accords and more objective peace keepers could be UN troops.
It is not Russia who has been expanding and in danger of now been appeased, Russia has shrunk, it is the 20 times bigger budgeted NATO and USA that has been expanding through Eastern Europe right up to borders of Russia. It is the proxy war hungry cowardly USA NATO planners that must not be appeased by all of Ukraine and Russia going to extreme and an expanding form of war, when it is reasonable and good that an 8year civil war be resolved by negotiations, returning to the already in place Minsk talks framework, to peacefully resolve the bloody consequences of USA’s coup against Ukraine’s democracy in 2014 by Zelensky’s party. Calling Zelensky and his coup party, democratically elected in subsequent elections they ran, is not legitimate enough. To have an unelected forced coup government run elections, and while the country is divided and cut off in an 8year civil war, can not be called legitimate elections.
It is not a case of the danger of ‘Appeasing Russia’ Russia is not expanding, it is USA NATO expanding for last 30years against its clear good faith promises to Russia that ended the Cold War, by the progressive character of Gorbachev and Russia. Forked tongue USA has gradually gone back on all its arms treaties and promises. We must now have the wisdom not to appease USA NATO and their extreme and duplicitous use of the tragic civil war their coup instigated in Ukraine. USA NATO expansionism and their call to further abuse Ukrainians into now fighting a full war against their once fellow citizens in the breakaway republics, this is what we must not excuse or appease.
It is reasonable to resolve the civil wars in Ukraine, but of course it should be resolved multilaterally not unilaterally by Russia, but resolving it is a solution to a problem USA NATOs Ukraine coup government caused, if they had not alienated the Russian speaking regions of Ukraine they would not have felt they needed to breakaway and fight for their homes, arming Ukraine to turn all of the country into a bigger all out proxy war for USA NATO is wrong, the situation of breakaway republics can and should be resolved, as Russia also has shown it wants. Expanding the 8year civil war into a bigger war is an excuse USA NATO has obviously been waiting for, and the coup government of Ukraine may now be calling for, but they should not be appeased. Wider Ukraine proxy war by expansionist USA NATO must not be appeased. Peaceful resolution of the breakaway regions with a reasonable and agreed form of Autonomy could be negotiated by return to Minsk Accords or something like it with Russia and Ukraine and Europe not NATO participating, if the USA NATO would be asked to shut up and allow it to succeed. But they obviously want a wider Ukraine civil war and proxy war with Russia, we should not follow or appease them.